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Tahirul Qadri's Long March

Intellectual discourse to achieve a deeper understanding and a broader perspective of the political events affecting us.
Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:54 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

"I have talked to various lawyers, and if I have correctly understood Assemblies can be dissolved by a government any time when elections are approaching; even six months in advance to hold early elections. The final limit of expiry on Pakistani elected national assembly is 16th March but provincial assemblies like Punjab can continue beyond that since government was formed later. So there is nothing sacrosanct about 16th March, it's only a concept created by the lay media in our minds.

I suspect that once this mercurial, self-declared Messiah of the Pakistani nation, this padri takes the pulpit in a short while he will declare that assemblies should be dissolved early to give full 90 days to the Elections so that all candidates and supporters and public gets one month for scrutiny of the documents and record of the candidates instead of a few hours needed for approval at the moment. The rationale will be that if assemblies complete their term then Interim Set up will be for 60 days before the Elections, if assemblies are dissolved early then as per the Constitution of Pakistan Interim Set Up can be for 90 days before the Elections.
If I have correctly understood his mind, then he will say something like this.

I think Qadri is a very intelligent man, very well read, knows constitutions and law, is very clever, will not confront the public opinion, Supreme Court and the military establishment. All parties are already against him; if there was a chance for PTI to come out in his support he has doubly scared them. He will now say things to soothe. In management this is also a strategy to first ratchet up tensions to the point of no return and then negotiate. Getting smaller demands accepted becomes much easier.
Welcome to a very interesting dynamic political Pakistan. And remember most argument on media is shaped by political parties, their supporters and allied commentators, they create a reality for us; Haqqeat hamesha mukhtalif hoti hay...."

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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:09 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

Shameful Asma Jehangir ranting on Capital Talk about establishment...why no condemnation for the corrupt politicians.
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:19 pm
aftab,
It's indeed very interesting development, making it clear that TUQ is not alone and does have a strong party/parties standing behaind him.
We know that Qadri doesn't have any political standing, so who will be the beneficiary?
Is it going to be a judicial coup this time?
Asma is just a stupid and a crook person, a parrot repeating the words taught to her.

Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:23 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

I don't think it's a Judicial coup, if anything the SC has given ample time for this government to get it's act together. Though it is a boost for TUQ and the Pakistani nation.
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:40 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

The master of FLIP-FLOPS Altaf Hussain may decide to join Qadri's protest.
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:14 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

NAB should arrest PM, forthwith. This is there mandate and should not give an opportunity to Raja Rental to escape to luxury in Dubai, London etc...
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:39 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

"Supreme Court just ordered the arrest of Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf in the infamous Rental Power Case; this now mysteriously connects with the Qadri crowd at the D-Chowk which is less than 5 minutes away from Parliament and the Court; Qadri is asking for more people to join him; given the sudden energy created by the court decision it is quiet probable that this crowd of around 100,000 plus will swell to quarter a million by tomorrow afternoon; all asking for the government to implement court decisions, so ultimately a Tehrir Square has been engineered in Islamabad, government has lost all moral authority to act against the demonstrators which is only going to make them strong and big, the only institution that can now stand between chaos and order is the military, Baluchistan government has already been dismissed so basically a process of political transition towards a Interim Government is in full swing...should we believe that Army and American are not on board..? ..pattern looks far too similar to the Egyptian model where America had no option but to accept the popularity of Muslim Brotherhood, in Pakistan Qadri is not an electoral force; Imran could be, this was PTI's opportunity to join in creating the new system but they have been hesitant because they could not understand - like many of us - as to what is happening? and who is doing it? now PTI and other parties have to move quickly to take positions in the new emerging situation....I will be joining in a live transmission soon...."

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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:41 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

Liaqat Ali Jatoi of PMLN also to be arrested as part of SC decision on Rental case corruption.
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:46 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

chairman NAB resigns
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:56 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

Qaira putting up a good show for government on Geo news.
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:49 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

Who's going to blink first?
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Unread post Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:35 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

http://www.zemtv.com/2013/01/15/tonight ... uary-2013/

A very important program...must watch!
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Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:09 am
aftab Most Senior Member

http://www.zemtv.com/2013/01/16/11th-ho ... uary-2013/

Another good program but just listen to Dr Moeed and save your time.
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Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:50 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

A large number of people on Wednesday staged a sit-in in front of Governor House in Peshawar, protesting against the killing of the 18 people whose mutilated bodies were recovered from the Bara area of Khyber Agency Tuesday evening.

The bullet-riddled bodies were found in the Alam Gudar area.

Reporters and media personnel present on the protest site estimated that around 5,000 people took part in the sit-in underway on Sher Shah Suri Road, right in front of Governor House.

Bara tribesmen are sitting outside Governor House with caskets and bodies of their family members who were killed.

The protestors, including family members of the deceased and social activists, chanted slogans against the army and the security agencies stationed in Khyber Agency and blamed them for the killings.

The tribesmen from Bara said that the people killed were not militants but ordinary citizens, who they said were murdered in cold blood by the security agencies.

Express News reported that a scuffle broke out as Senator Hameedullah Jan Afridi attempted to address the sit-in.

The mob attacked the senator by hurling stones and shoes at him. Soon after, a supporter who was accompanying Afridi fired in the air to disperse the mob and the senator was escorted to his car to escape the clash.

The protestors said that they had not seen the senator, who hails from the Bara region, for almost four and a half years. They said that Afridi resided peacefully in Islamabad, while the situation in Bara worsened over the years.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/494779/bara ... nor-house/

This is the treatment they deserve!
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Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:21 pm
Mirza Ghalib User avatar
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Thanks Aftab. This sit-in should not be forgotten either. Hope the Bara tribesmen get some kind of justice as well for their dead.

And now finally TUQ has unveiled his ambitions. Unless he himself is hand in glove with TUC, IK will have to take a stand on this:

Qadri presents 4 demands for elections
January 16, 2013

ISLAMABAD: Tehreek-e-Minhajul Quran (TMQ) chief Tahirul Qadri has presented four demands for the next general elections and gave an ultimatum to the government to decide till tonight, Geo News reported.

Speaking to the participants of sit-in at D-Chowk, Dr. Qadri presented his four demands, saying that elections should be held under article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution.

In his second demand, Qadri made it clear that election commission of Pakistan should be dissolved and reconstituted again. He also demanded to dissolve federal and provincial assembles.

Caretaker set up should not be brought under a deal (Mukmukah) with two parties, he said in his fourth demand.

Dr Qadri said he wanted to be the caretaker of the nation rather caretaker prime minister.

Giving ultimatum over charter of demands, he said the government should decide till tonight

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-84012 ... lections--

(Qadri as "caretaker of the Nation"? God help us all!)

Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:35 pm
Shimatoree Senior Moderator

Regarding the BARA scenario and attempted attack on Sen. Hamidullah Jan Afridi,

Well things are beginning to accelerate.............but I REST my case once again.

Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:18 pm
Mirza Ghalib User avatar
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Shim. Hope Pukhtoon solidarity spreading to the rest of the country come into play here, too. But somehow it's taking longer to take off. Must be the TUQ effect which has the entire nation mesmerised apparently. About acceleration, no doubt about it. Time has taken on another dimension in this run up to the elections, if elections there are. Again today, IK and PTI refused to follow up TUK's invitation to join him in Islamabad. Even PTI's youth wing ISF was against the march as were most people on Twitter, etc. But acceleration and headlong action must not be confounded. Soon the govt or TUQ will make an egregious mistake, and we'll take it from there.

Unread post Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:08 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

Imran should not shut the door on TUQ and should have given a revise date of joining the protest, even if he did not join in the end. As it is the pressure is now of the PPP government to do anything, or listen to any demands from PTI or others...Mook-Mookah is in full swing and unfortunately it has swung back in the government’s favour, for the time being!
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Unread post Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:42 am
Shimatoree Senior Moderator

The whole group of crooks who will gain from the way things are set up now in regards to the election commission which their aparatchiks-( 4 of them) control are getting together with PPP and their aparartchicks to safe guard their safety plan.....menaing they do not wish for anything to change.
Fakhroo has said it himself that he has only one vote and the other 4 vote against him.

We must not accept the domesticated PORKY PIG from Lahore getting together with the NOT SO WILD Castrated Boar from Dera Ismail Khan-( read Diesel) and pontificating about what they will or will not accept.

These guys are doing what any Mafia does.....protect their turf and stop anyone from holding them accountable.

Imran is in a good position but he has to be ready to POUNCE if the crooks get together to stiffle the people's wishes.

As I have said many times this is just the begining.......get ready for a lot more dirty tricks from PML-N and their MEDIA stooges like Hamid Meer and Irfan Siddique etc etc

Unread post Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:41 pm
aftab Most Senior Member

"Dark and dingy Islamabad is quivering with thundering clouds, rain and cold winds; thousands and thousands of protestors in Blue Area are shivering to death with women and children; today with their courage, peaceful resolve, discipline and moral authority they are a testament to our political and human impotency, our intellectual poverty, moral degradation and the sheer criminality of Pakistani politics, while few hundred yards away Supreme Court demands record of the Rental Power Case from NAB, that has not been presented even today...in their audaciousness, belief and pain they have demonstrated the criminal collusion and "muk mukka" that lies in the heart of Pakistani political system that works for few powerful families and their hired mouth pieces in media....Democracy is a system that allows for a process of change but our politicians are united like a stone wall...this episode has exposed the weakness of PTI and has demonstrated that Pakistani media has no ability to shape opinion beyond what politicians desire...."


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