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ThePakPolitics A leading World Political Forum- ThePakPolitics.com International Politics Forum in PK Politics, Pakistan 2018-02-11T08:10:41+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/feed.php?f=21 2018-02-11T08:10:41+03:00 2018-02-11T08:10:41+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2540&p=10546#p10546 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Thieves burnt alive !]]>
Ahmadpoor is a village west of Bahawalpoor. It has sort of acquired a reputation of sort where 140 Sub-Human people of South Punjab got burnt alive on the main Grand Trunk Road.
Here is what happened.

A tanker truck had an accident and some of the gasoline started leaking on the road side. An announcement was made in the various mosques by the religious leaders in the village that these Sub-Humans should go and collect free gasoline.
A whole crowd of people came to site of the accident and started collecting the gasoline in buckets etc. Then someone thought that the gasoline was not leaking out fast enough, so they obtained hammers and chisels and started making their own HOLES in the tank.
It just happened that someone lighted a cigaret and well- the tank exploded with a loud KABOOM. Everyone got dry-cleaned, taking a bath on the gasoline. Well the gasoline caught fire and thus around 130 plus people got burned alive with over 90 % body surface burns. The ambulance services and the Disaster Management people had no idea as to what to do. You see Bahawalpur is far away from Lahore where all the medical resources of the province of Punjab are concentrated.
So all of these patients were shifted to the local Victoria Hospital-( Plastic Surgery Ward)- in Bahawalpur.
Soon the politicians and media realised the RATING potential of this event and they came en masse to the area. The army could not afford to miss such an event.
The GOC-( general officer commanding) told the hospital staff that they were taking 40 plus of these patients, brought his helicopters and shipped them to the CMH. The Punjab govt: brought its own helicopters and shipped 62 to the Burn Centre in Multan and the rest to the Jinnah burn centre in Lahore.
All this was done by the civilian and military administrators or the Civil servants. The doctors in Multan and Lahore wanted to win BROWNIE points with the Shahbaz Sharif Administration so they went along.
Now anyone who has a 40 % plus body surface burn is unlikely to survive and within days these people started dying in droves.
All those Do-Gooders suddenly realised that the situation was going to make them look bad- so they started sending messages and e-mails etc telling Victoria hospital not to transfer anymore patients to them. This included the army. The great champion of the downtrodden people- the TV media also disappeared and so this event was ERASED from the airwaves.

Of course some one had to be found on whom the blame could be fixed. Obviously the Shahbaz Sharif govt: in Lahore and the Military were NOT responsible. You would not blame the patients who got burned even though they got COOKED while STEALING the gasoline. So Victoria Hospital was to be blamed for not having a Burn Centre . An inquiry commission was created which cross examined the medical staff at Victoria Hospital. There were some BLUNT words exchanged and the issue of South Punjab being the step-child etc was brought into open discussion. The commission was left with egg on its face with an expose of the govt’s doings. Also the army played it’s devious cards in this fiasco. The remaining patients still at Victoria Hospital who were salvageable as their burns were not severe, were to be transferred to Lahore Jinnah Burn Centre. All plans were made and then Victoria Hospital got a call that they should keep the patients as the Army had transferred the 40 or so patients that they had to Lahore. They were airlifted to Lahore and in a week all of them were dead. It is established that no hospital in Pakistan wants to be held responsible for dead patients.

It was thought best that the only way out was to shower money on the relatives of the dead gasoline thieves and an amount of 25 lakhs was sanctioned for each dead burnt and 15 lakhs for those that did not die yet. Since so much money was available, a lot of the waderas in the areas had some of their servants burnt on purpose with hot water on the leg or arm and thus collected a whole bunch of free money. Note that this money was being granted from the Big Thieves to the Burned dead thieves.
And everyone is happy ever after.
Oh yes, the Burn Centre in Multan obtained a pseudo-recognition from the Punjab Govt: with release of funds for them. It was for them( Multan Burn Centre) having supposedly saved the face of the Punjab Govt:. For that they had a visit by His Majesty Shahbaz Sharif who came and placed his hands on hastily placed white marble plaque.

One good thing did come out of this incident. The govt: placed a regulation that the gasoline tankers will be required to have a double shell. That is the requirement in all countries all over the world but here in the land of the Pure, Pakistan they had to wait for a bunch of thieves getting cooked alive to do the obvious

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2018-02-05T16:49:42+03:00 2018-02-05T16:49:42+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2539&p=10545#p10545 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Defining Success]]>
Aristotle

'If you want your children to be intelligent, read them fairy tales.
If you want them to be more intelligent, read them more fairy tales.' Albert Einstein



By Subroto Bagchi

My mother who came to India as a refugee, raised by a widowed Mother, no more educated than high school, married to an anonymous government servant whose last salary was Rupees Three Hundred, robbed of her eyesight by fate .
I was the last child of a small-time government servant, in a family of five brothers.
My earliest memory of my father is as that of a District Employment Officer in Koraput, Orissa.
It was, and remains as back of beyond as you can imagine.
There was no electricity; no primary school nearby and water did not flow out of a tap.
As a result, I did not go to school until the age of eight; I was home-schooled.
My father used to get transferred every year.
The family belongings fit into the back of a jeep – so the family moved from place to place and without any trouble, my Mother would set up an establishment and get us going.
Raised by a widow who had come as a refugee from the then East Bengal, she was a matriculate when she married my Father.

My parents set the foundation of my life and the value system, which makes me what I am today and largely, defines what success means to me today.

As District Employment Officer, my father was given a jeep by the government.
There was no garage in the Office, so the jeep was parked in our house.
My father refused to use it to commute to the office. He told us that the jeep is an expensive resource given by the government- he reiterated to us that it was not ”his jeep” but the government’s jeep. Insisting that he would use it only to tour the interiors, he would walk to his office on normal days..
He also made sure that we never sat in the government jeep – we could sit in it only when it was stationary.

That was our early childhood lesson in governance – a lesson that corporate managers learn the hard way, some never do.
The driver of the jeep was treated with respect due to any other member of my Father’s office.
As small children, we were taught not to call him by his name. We had to use the suffix ‘dada’ whenever we were to refer to him in public or private. When I grew up to own a car and a driver by the name of Raju was appointed – I repeated the lesson to my two small daughters. They have, as a result, grown up to call Raju, ‘Raju Uncle’ – very different from many of their friends who refer to their family driver, as ‘my driver’. When I hear that term from a school- or college-going person, I cringe.
To me, the lesson was significant – you treat small people with more respect than how you treat big people. It is more important to respect your subordinates than your superiors.
Our day used to start with the family huddling around my Mother’s chulha – an earthen fire place she would build at each place of posting where she would cook for the family. There was neither gas, nor electrical stoves. The morning routine started with tea. As the brew was served, Father would ask us to read aloud the editorial page of The Statesman’s ‘muffosil’ edition – delivered one day late. We did not understand much of what we were reading. But the ritual was meant for us to know that the world was larger than Koraput district and the English I speak today, despite having studied in an Oriya medium school, has to do with that routine. After reading the newspaper aloud, we were told to fold it neatly. Father taught us a simple lesson.

He used to say, “You should leave your newspaper and your toilet, the way you expect to find it”.
That lesson was about showing consideration to others. Business begins and ends with that simple precept.
Being small children, we were always enamored with advertisements in the newspaper for transistor radios – we did not have one.
We saw other people having radios in their homes and each time there was an advertisement of Philips, Murphy or Bush radios, we would ask Father when we could get one.
Each time, my Father would reply that we did not need one because he already had five radios – alluding to his five sons.

We also did not have a house of our own and would occasionally ask Father as to when, like others, we would live in our own house. He would give a similar reply,” We do not need a house of our own. I already own five houses”. His replies did not gladden our hearts in that instant.

Nonetheless, we learnt that it is important not to measure personal success and sense of well being through material possessions.
Government houses seldom came with fences. Mother and I collected twigs and built a small fence.
After lunch, my Mother would never sleep.
She would take her kitchen utensils and with those she and I would dig the rocky, white ant infested surrounding.
We planted flowering bushes.
The white ants destroyed them.
My mother brought ash from her chulha and mixed it in the earth and we planted the seedlings all over again.
This time, they bloomed.
At that time, my father’s transfer order came.
A few neighbors told my mother why she was taking so much pain to beautify a government house, why she was planting seeds that would only benefit the next occupant.
My mother replied that it did not matter to her that she would not see the flowers in full bloom.
She said, “I have to create a bloom in a desert and whenever I am given a new place, I must leave it more beautiful than what I had inherited”.
That was my first lesson in success.
It is not about what you create for yourself, it is what you leave behind that defines success.
My mother began and galvanized the nation in to patriotic fervor.
Other than reading out the newspaper to my mother, I had no clue about how I could be part of the action.
So, after reading her the newspaper, every day I would land up near the University’s water tank, which served the community.
I would spend hours under it, imagining that there could be spies who would come to poison the water and I had to watch for them.
I would daydream about catching one and how the next day, I would be featured in the newspaper.
Unfortunately for me, the spies at war ignored the sleepy town of Bhubaneswar and I never got a chance to catch one in action..
Yet, that act unlocked my imagination.

Imagination is everything. If we can imagine a future, we can create it, if we can create that future, others will live in it.
That is the essence of success.
Over the next few years, my mother’s eyesight dimmed but in me she created a larger vision, a vision with which I continue to see the world and, I sense, through my eyes, she was seeing too.
As the next few years unfolded, her vision deteriorated and she was operated for cataract.
I remember, when she returned after her operation and she saw my face clearly for the first time, she was astonished.
She said, “Oh my God, I did not know you were so fair”.. I remain mighty pleased with that adulation even till date.
Within weeks of getting her sight back, she developed a corneal ulcer and, overnight, became blind in both eyes.
That was 1969.
She died in 2002.
In all those 32 years of living with blindness, she never complained about her fate even once.
Curious to know what she saw with blind eyes, I asked her once if she sees darkness.
She replied, “No, I do not see darkness. I only see light even with my eyes closed”.
Until she was eighty years of age, she did her morning yoga everyday, swept her own room and washed her own clothes.

To me, success is about the sense of independence; it is about not seeing the world but seeing the light.
Over the many intervening years, I grew up, studied, joined the industry and began to carve my life’s own journey.
I began my life as a clerk in a government office, went on to become a Management Trainee with the DCM group and eventually found my life’s calling with the IT industry when fourth generation computers came to India in 1981.. Life took me places – I worked with outstanding people, challenging assignments and traveled all over the world.
In 1992, while I was posted in the US, I learnt that my father, living a retired life with my eldest brother, had suffered a third degree burn injury and was admitted in the Safderjung Hospital in Delhi.
I flew back to attend to him – he remained for a few days in critical stage, bandaged from neck to toe.
The Safderjung Hospital is a cockroach infested, dirty, inhuman place.
The overworked, under-resourced sisters in the burn ward are both victims and perpetrators of dehumanized life at its worst.
One morning, while attending to my Father, I realized that the blood bottle was empty and fearing that air would go into his vein, I asked the attending nurse to change it. She bluntly told me to do it myself. In that horrible theater of death, I was in pain and frustration and anger.
Finally when she relented and came, my Father opened his eyes and murmured to her, “Why have you not gone home yet?”
Here was a man on his deathbed but more concerned about the overworked nurse than his own state. I was stunned at his stoic self.
There I learnt that there is no limit to how concerned you can be for another human being and what the limit of inclusion is you can create.
My father died the next day.
He was a man whose success was defined by his principles, his frugality, his universalism and his sense of inclusion.
Above all, he taught me that success is your ability to rise above your discomfort, whatever may be your current state.
You can, if you want, raise your consciousness above your immediate surroundings.
Success is not about building material comforts – the transistor that he never could buy or the house that he never owned.
His success was about the legacy he left, the mimetic continuity of his ideals that grew beyond the smallness of a ill-paid, unrecognized government servant’s world.
My father was a fervent believer in the British Raj. He sincerely doubted the capability of the post-independence Indian political parties to govern the country.
To him, the lowering of the Union Jack was a sad event.
My Mother was the exact opposite.
When Subhash Bose quit the Indian National Congress and came to Dacca, my mother, then a schoolgirl, garlanded him.
She learnt to spin khadi and joined an underground movement that trained her in using daggers and swords.
Consequently, our household saw diversity in the political outlook of the two.
On major issues concerning the world, the Old Man and the Old Lady had differing opinions.
In them, we learnt the power of disagreements, of dialogue and the essence of living with diversity in thinking.
Success is not about the ability to create a definitive dogmatic end state; it is about the unfolding of thought processes, of dialogue and continuum.
Two years back, at the age of eighty-two, Mother had a paralytic stroke and was lying in a government hospital in Bhubaneswar.
I flew down from the US where I was serving my second stint, to see her.
I spent two weeks with her in the hospital as she remained in a paralytic state. She was neither getting better nor moving on. Eventually I had to return to work. While leaving her behind, I kissed her face.
In that paralytic state and a garbled voice, she said, “Why are you kissing me, go kiss the world.”
Her river was nearing its journey, at the confluence of life and death, this woman who came to India as a refugee, raised by a widowed Mother, no more educated than high school, married to an anonymous government servant whose last salary was Rupees Three Hundred, robbed of her eyesight by fate and crowned by adversity was telling me to go and kiss the world!
Success to me is about Vision.
It is the ability to rise above the immediacy of pain.
It is about imagination.
It is about sensitivity to small people.
It is about building inclusion.
It is about connectedness to a larger world existence.
It is about personal tenacity.
It is about giving back more to life than you take out of it.

It is about creating extra-ordinary success with ordinary lives.



Defining success by Subroto Bagchi -
CEO MindTree.

Statistics: Posted by Shimatoree — Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:49 pm


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2018-02-05T13:03:10+03:00 2018-02-05T13:03:10+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2538&p=10544#p10544 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Evil West and Pakistan]]>
I also started thinking that he is playing establishment's game after his stance on recent molvi dharna in rawalpindi. I watched his interview and I think that he is now easily startled and can not keep a strong stance as he used to.

Recent news about Asma tells the same.
KP police pressuring to retract statement on murder case, says Asma’s sister -
Mardan case: PTI MPA claims Asma was not raped, died of natural causes -

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2018-02-05T08:56:32+03:00 2018-02-05T08:56:32+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2538&p=10543#p10543 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Evil West and Pakistan]]>

Feb 5th 2018


Met another fascinating man this evening.
He is a new Pakistan Custom’s superintendent in the head office at Hayatabad Customs office.
The conversation slowly went towards the issue of corruption and here is the gist of the interview.

For Brevity, I have again deleted my questions and merely placed his answers as comments.

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“ Sir, the entire system is infiltrated with rampant corruption so it is probably unfair to only select Nawaz Sharif as the epitome of corruption. “

“ The KPK police which has been and is being touted as efficient, immune to political influences and not corrupt is quite corrupt. They probably do not ask for bribes on the street or in the Thana but they more than compensate for that in other ways. As you know we are corrupt and do not like doing the hard work needed to catch the crooks who smuggle goods and narcotics. The higher ups in Islamabad demand that we produce a certain number of arrests in that activity and so we need the help from the police since it they who are in the KNOW.
Well, the police does not do that for nothing and they demand their own CUT and this is how it happens.
An assistant Inspector General of police showed up and wanted to know how we are going to take care of them. I asked WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO FOR YOU.
He said that he would like to have 2 million rupees plus a confiscated car that has not been registered. He added that in return he would give us the case involving a large catch of Heroin and Charas which we can prosecute and show our higher ups that we were working hard.
I looked at my experienced senior superintendent and he said that I had to make the decision as he was retiring in 2 months. I persisted and he said that I ought to comply otherwise not only we would not have “ CASES” but other troubles will also arise.

“ You see the entire body of the country is infiltrated with deceit and corruption at all levels.The people in Islamabad want money from their assistants on the posts, the police wants money for doing their work-( for which they get salaries)- and obviously we want to live well too and since everyone is doing that why should we not benefit and make the lives of our families better”.

“ Pakistan has intense CANCER-Like corruption in every nook and cranny of everyday life and it is impossible to eradicate this. We should just accept it as part of our culture and our religion. We are rotten to the core. The Police in KPK is more innovative in getting their corruption money but they are getting their POUND of FLESH “.

I went visit Torkhum customs post at the Afghan border. I noticed a mosque there and as we are there at Zuhar prayer time, the Molana was giving the call for prayer. I looked at my friend the Customs Officer, and he immediately knew the question in my mind. He said “ The Molana also gets his cut of 5000 rupees a month otherwise he would give sermons against corruption and that would not look good. He gets his money and he does not talk about corruption and that makes us feel better. We do not want to feel that we are corrupt even though we know we are. It is a sort of denial that we live in. Think of us a psychiatric patients and then you will probably not think of us as criminals. “

“ I had originally gone to medical school and was in training to be a physician in medicine. My father said that I should take the CSS exam as I would have more stature- so to please him I took and passed the CSS exam and they sent me in Customs. All my friends congratulated me on that and told me that now not only I will have stature but also all the money in the world. At the time I did not know what they meant but now I know for sure. I am not happy as wrong doing BITES at me but I have to survive so I have joined the club”.

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2018-02-03T20:31:37+03:00 2018-02-03T20:31:37+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2538&p=10542#p10542 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Evil West and Pakistan]]>
Rubbish dumps are to be found on practically every street corner in Pakistan. Pollution is spread everywhere, etc. but at least Pakistan is still at peace.-( THIS MUST BE A JOKE FOR THOSE THAT ARE BLIND DEAF MUTES living in Punjab ! )- Pakistan has been at war for a very long time.

One cannot SHIFT the ONUS onto the West.

           Just to put a case ..

11 yr old boy with a cleft lip' cleft palate has a haemoglobin of 8.7. I told the nurse taking care in Dir that a minimum of 10 Gm is required before surgery can be done and that it can be done quickly by a blood transfusion. Also I asked for ruling out Thalassemia  by doing a haemoglobin test.          
That was 7 days ago ! No communications yet.
Of course the Nurse was continuously using Alhamdollilah, Subhanallah and Jazakallah all the time.



If a Murderer gets a Name E Janaza-( Mir Hazara Khan Bjarani)- by the ritualistic pseudo-religious clique joined in by all the other Fraudsters is an indication- then my prognostications about Pakistan merely confirm what I have said previously . This fellow killed his wife first and then killed himself and now all the Holy people stood in front of God in his Janaza prayers. Believe me the crowd was immense and all of this for a murderer !
Do they think they can pressure God Almighty too ?

           As regards many other people's KNEE-JERK reaction to any criticism of Pakistan by simply declaring the EVILS of the West...I am REPORTING what I am seeing here in KPK...since my last visit.
I am on the ground and have been visiting here for many years.
I have no intention either now or before of trying to convince ANYONE of the merits of my observations.
If Pakistan is ever to prosper, then it must have the GUTS to face unto it's own wrong doings.
They had installed  Solar panels for the street lights.
The panels were placed 36 feet above.
No one ever considered that the solar panels need periodic cleaning to utilise their capability.
No ONE ever thought about it and thus they did not PLAN for that.
The West designed and came up with idea of the the Solar Panels.
So now the solar panels in KPK do not work as they are covered with many layers of dust etc.
Thus the lights do not work after it is dark.
And this too in the govt run by the party-( PTI)- of the New Messiah Imran Khan.

AS t Have said what I see is based on a simple intellectually honest observation.
The situation I see here has not been created by the West.
The West does not create and DUMP rubbish everywhere including the irrigation canals and the rivers.
The Fish have died out in the Kabul River.
The West did not put all the chemical pollutants in there.
The Water Table is sinking precipitously . the West has not drawn out the water.
The place where I stay, water is used freely to wash the cars every day.
A family of 3 people have 4 plus one servants.
I can go on but the West did not do all of that.
Moral and ethical degradation here in Pakistan is not created by the West.
Kasur debauchery is not created by the West.
Hira Mandi is not a creation of the West.  Putting urea in milk is not done in the West.
Electing Thieves and robbers is not the creation of the West. Nawaz Sharif, Shahbaz Sharif were not born in New York or London or Zurich. Zardari did not get their expertise in larceny and robbery at Oxford and so on.

           
           
           

On 29th of July 2017, after reading the entire 547 pages of their judgement , I had thought that the supreme court did not do it's duty to the nation by taking it easy on the Sharif Gang- by not sending them to jail for forgery and lying.
I said that the supreme court must put a stop to their freedom of propaganda against the state for the crooks.
They did not do that.
Yesterday, after 8 months they took a small step by sending a small crook Nihal Hashemi to jail. But why are they not sending the Godfather himself to jail ? Why ?
Did they never read the value of TIME ?
Probably NOT.

           
I will not blame the West for all the evil in Pakistan and India.
Yes the British did kill Tipu Sultan but it were the other Indians who were the real KILLERS and Intellectual Honesty DEMANDS that we say that. It was not the West that killed Shah Jahan’s 3 sons.
It was not the West that gouged out the eyes of the Mughal Emperor in Delhi
             


I had thought that I would never have to say this but the LOGIC appears to be a CLONE of the logic that Nawaz Sharif uses and that is…..

.." I have my OWN Facts and I believe in them ".......Well if that is your logic then thats your problem !

         I must ask did the West CREATE the Beggar's case in Islamabad where the dogs were fighting over the 4 month old baby left on the street ?

           PTI is doing the same stuff here in KPK that the others are doing in other places.
Leaving aside dirt and rubbish, this BOONDOGGLE of C.M. Pervez Khattak's metro will cost them the possibility of getting an absolute majority in KPK.
And it has not rained YET.
Just watch when the rains come, the water will take PTI with it and it will have to share the govt with those that it hates.

           Switzerland along with the USA, Britain etc are all very corrupt....well the people in those countries do not live in a Pigs stye or in a garbage dump. 
Why should one insist on talking about Africa and South America when all we are interested in talking about is Pakistan and more specifically KPK.

           No, the West did not do any of those things.
Yes they have done a lot of evil and they continue to do that but the West did not cause 14 % Hepatitis C infection in Pakistan,
the West did not create the garbage in Karachi and
the West certainly did not PREVENT the supreme court from making the right decision in a TIMELY fashion to punish the crooks .

           

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Peshawar Cantt - KPK..Pakistan

Boot Polish.


A heart breaking incident can take place anytime, anywhere provided of course if you have a HEART.

This is the story of a few moments in the life of a Boot Polisher-( Shoe Polisher)-.

I was getting my shoes polished when a young mother walked by with her son. The boy was eating an ice cream cone but did not want to finish it. The mother took the Ice Cream cone from the boy and handed it to the Shoe Polisher. The Polisher held it till the woman had left and then threw it in the gutter behind him.

I asked him why he did that and the expression on his face HIT me like a ton of bricks. Here I was supposedly an educated person completely missed this incident where one human being showed utter contempt towards another human being less fortunate than them. I felt rotten and angry at that woman , and then the Shoe Polisher said-

“ Disrespect and contempt are not easy for me to digest . The woman by her action showed contempt towards me just because I am a poor Shoe Polisher “

I used to know him as a Young Pushtoon from the Tribal Area making a living by polishing shoes. At the end of his working hours, he would go to Capital Cinema and watch Bollywood movies starring Dilip Kumar. He had collected a few photos of the actor which he kept next to his Polish Box.
This old man with a short scraggly beard was sitting next to the paint shop in Chowk Fawara in Peshawar Cantt.
But today when I went there, the photos of Dilip Kumar were not there. Plus he had a Beard which he did not have before.

I asked him about the photos of Dilip .
The Polisher became quiet, looked around and did not say anything.
So I asked the same question again.
With sadness in his eyes he replied-

“ Religious People started telling me that I was old and that I should go to the mosque and pray and go to Haj rather than having movie actor’s photos next to me.
So I took the pictures home and grew this beard so that people would stop bothering me. I have not done the Haj as a Shoe Polisher does not earn enough money and Has os for Rich people anyway. As to praying, well I do not pray as I am too busy cleaning and polishing other people’s shoes. Too bad that I do not have a way that I can polish their SOULS also “ end of quote.

I asked what else .

He replied “ When I get done with earning a living, I go back to my home and sit next to those photographs for a few hours, remember all the movies of Dilip Kumar that I used to watch. I do not know computers and cannot afford such things so the only way for me to see those movies is through closing my eyes and letting my imagination flow. and then I go to sleep.”

I had to ask him one more question before I left.

I asked him why did he watch all those Dilip Kumar movies?

The Polisher got up gave me my polished shoes and said “ You ask too many questions. I am tired and old. Besides what good would it do for you to know the answer to that question”

I thought for bit and then asked the same question again.

He replied “ Dilip Kumar used to bring me ALIVE when I watched his movies .
Dilip Kumar expressed my emotions in a manner that I could not do myself.
After a time, when I watched him in the movies , he sort of became a friend who was kind and compassionate to me and my life. He became my inspiration and has helped me survive this cruel world in which I have had a long miserable life of a shoe polisher. I just wish we could POLISH the souls of men and women and bring a shine to them like Dilip Kumar brought to me “

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And like you, Friend, I can just repeat: Come what may, my vote is also for Imran Khan, the most extraordinary and talented man in world politics.

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To get more people, we need to allow all kind of people speak freely, pkpolitics originally didn't restrict anyone to say anything. What use a discussion is if everyone is already agreeing on the same thing, saying the same thing, following the same agenda. We need to have all noonies, ppps, qadris along with imranies here.

I have recently got very fond of http://www.reddit.com/ and stayed on for a while. It can be both nice or brutal at times.

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The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back.  He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist government. In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked, 'Do you know how to catch wild pigs?'

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.  The young man said this was no joke. 'You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.

Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity. The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms just a little at a time.

One should always remember: There is no such thing as a free Lunch! A politician will never provide a service for you cheaper than you can do yourself. If you see all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the gate slams shut!
In this 'very important' election year, listen closely to what the candidates are promising you - just maybe you will be able to tell who is about to slam the gate on America .
    What the young student forgot to mention is that the same can be said for homeland security.

    Remember what Thomas Jefferson one of the writers of
The Declaration of Independence wrote:

'A government big enough to give you everything you
want, is big enough to take away everything you have.

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Shaheen Sehbai - The Daily Times - January 12, 2018

So much has happened in just two weeks, drastically changing the mood of the people and the mode of politics.

Politics first. Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has become so virulent and toxic that he does not appear to care about anything, neither for his party, nor for his governments in Islamabad, Lahore, Gilgit and Quetta.

He is continuously working to create conditions that can lead to separation of Punjab from Pakistan, ala Sheikh Mujibur Rehman.

My way or the highway is his new mantra, and his daughter has been egging him on, relentlessly.
That he has been continuously showing an inclination to have extremely cordial relations with India, especially the Indian Punjab, has been evident in most of his policies. Vegetables and steel have been regularly imported from Amritsar, trade and cultural delegations have been exchanged many times between Punjabs, and his love for the Modi government is no secret. Now he has even declared Sheikh Mujibur Rehman not guilty and accused the establishment of forcing Mujib out of Pakistan, the same way he wants us to believe he is being pushed out.

The physical stress, aggression and frustration on his face when he is speaking to crowds betrays his confidence as if he was trying to forcibly convince the people that he was powerful enough to beat everybody.

He has obviously been given a psychological dose by the courts and the establishment.

The courts, instead of summoning him and his cohorts on contempt charges, have shown unmatched restraint and resilience. The judges have alternatively gone into an overdrive on issues that had to be initially dealt with by these elected governments, especially the PML-N in the centre and in Punjab, besides Sindh.

This has probably aggravated Nawaz Sharif’s state of aggression. He must he wondering why are they not responding? Why are they ignoring his threats? Why are they intruding into his domain so aggressively? These judges appointed by me were supposed to be my friends, helpers and abettors like Justice Qayyum. What has happened to them? Why is Shahbaz so calm and cool? Why does he not attack my enemies? Is he in cahoots with the Pindi boys? I am still popular with voters and Chakwal is the latest example but why is everyone not listening to me?

All this and much more in politics has brought the political temperature to a boiling point. Everyone appears to have crossed the normal limits, in a way, retractions are no more possible, not so easily.
The PML-N MPs in Balochistan revolted against their own leadership, ignoring PM Abbasi, overthrowing a government, almost, forcing the Chief Minister to resign. A hung assembly in Quetta will be a great example for other provincial legislatures waiting to go for the kill in due course.
For the judiciary, the sudden mode of flowing activism visible via the actions of the Chief Justice indicates a clear decision has been by the justices of the higher courts on the side where they stand.

Obviously, the Constitution and the law, guaranteed by the Pindi boys.

The Supreme Court has in turn gone into the micro-management mode and issues like dirty water, hospital beds, medical colleges, rapes and murders are now kosher. A new face of the judiciary, similar to Choudhry Iftikhar’s tenure, is now on display. It is the badly needed populist side of activism.

But while the justices can play around with these issues, gaining applause and accolades, their primary job is to see that the courts and judges under them perform their duty honestly, competently and in a timely way.

That is yet to happen. Lower courts are turning down higher court judgements, and this is a new phase or face of judicial independence. How can this be justified? People are finding it hard to understand how a SC judgement can be overthrown and rejected by a lower court, as in the Hudaibiya case. Is this the new judicial independence we must live with? Are we again witnessing the episodes of SC judges removing the SC chief justice as seen in the 90s? Where is the SC judge who was supposed to oversee the trials in NAB courts? Has anyone heard a whiff of whisper about him or by him?

While these new chapters are being written, the mood of the people is now turning from angry to rebellious. MPs in Quetta provided one example. People of Kasur showed the street mood. In other cases, PML-N leaders who came out in public were forced to run and seek refuge, unable to face even the smallest crowd.

What happened in Kasur after the rape and murder of an innocent girl was just one indication. Thousands of people turned out for her funeral and then turned their fury on the administration. A mini-Model Town episode was re-enacted.

If anger for a minor girl can draw such crowds, the maulanas preparing for the movement for Khatam-e-Nabuwat would be offering congrats and toasts to each other, smelling the kill.
Likewise, the new joint leader of the political spectrum, Dr Tahir Qadri, who jumped quickly to lead the backlash in Kasur, would be celebrating his own upcoming political war victory declaration. It is time to cash on everything that goes against a fallen but fighting Nawaz Sharif.

What must be kept in mind is that all these positions taken by different sides appear to be final, not retractable.

It is another thing that it is not the time for such heroics. Nawaz must concede that he has lost the legal battle and he will be convicted for crimes under the law; he cannot escape from his loot and plunder by using the democracy-in-danger slogan; he must let go.

All others must realise that Pakistan needs a united front against the regional and international pincer movements that threaten its unity and strength.

The army has fought well on the internal front and held the fort so far against external enemies, but the Pakistani nation must come around to meet these threats.

Losing is not an option

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My suggestion is to keep it as simple as pkpolitics once was.

1. Reduce and clean categories, current categories are a mess. With more trafic add more categories if required.
2. A section to show last 5-10 latest posts anywhere on this forum site, and a section to show 5-10 most active threads from anywhere on this forum.
3. Keep it simple, show off some stuff, for example a news panel on main page showing posts from current events, just saying.

Many things on this forum can be adjusted by changing some settings only, or simple configurations probably.

If you like a complete redesign, I looked up and found , and , but moving data to a new system will be difficult.

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you have very expensive choices.

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Keep your little grey cells working and come up some more good names though I think that the name of the web site really does not have to do much with Pakistan.
The graphics and content will be the MEAT that will get people's attention.

Its great that YOU are thinking, SN is thinking, MG is thinking and SEM inspire of his illness is thinking..we will come up with something real good soon.

This is a 1000 miles journey and we have taken the first few steps. Let us keep going.

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2017-12-28T03:41:14+03:00 2017-12-28T03:41:14+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2524&p=10490#p10490 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Resurrection]]> Statistics: Posted by Shimatoree — Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:41 am


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2017-12-27T22:03:57+03:00 2017-12-27T22:03:57+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2524&p=10489#p10489 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Resurrection]]> Statistics: Posted by Mirza Ghalib — Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:03 pm


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2017-12-26T16:09:47+03:00 2017-12-26T16:09:47+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2524&p=10488#p10488 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Resurrection]]> Statistics: Posted by Shimatoree — Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:09 pm


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2017-12-26T15:10:46+03:00 2017-12-26T15:10:46+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10486#p10486 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by Shimatoree — Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:10 pm


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2017-12-26T00:56:54+03:00 2017-12-26T00:56:54+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10485#p10485 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by stingingnettle — Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:56 am


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2017-12-25T22:56:26+03:00 2017-12-25T22:56:26+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10484#p10484 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by Mirza Ghalib — Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:56 pm


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2017-12-25T22:49:39+03:00 2017-12-25T22:49:39+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10483#p10483 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by Mirza Ghalib — Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:49 pm


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2017-12-25T22:07:11+03:00 2017-12-25T22:07:11+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10482#p10482 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by stingingnettle — Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:07 pm


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2017-12-24T23:39:55+03:00 2017-12-24T23:39:55+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&p=10481#p10481 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Re: Walking Corpses]]> Statistics: Posted by Musician — Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:39 pm


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2017-12-24T11:06:58+03:00 2017-12-24T11:06:58+03:00 https://thepakpolitics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2522&p=10480#p10480 <![CDATA[NATIONAL ISSUES • Best wishes to all as 2017 gives way to 2018]]> Statistics: Posted by Mirza Ghalib — Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:06 am


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